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Psionic Not-so-Evil Overlord Joined: Thu May 19, 2005 3:04 pm Posts: 2870 Location: UK	Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 1:07 pm Post subject: 40k Chaos Marine - mudbox/C4d etc test
	I started this today seeing as my mudbox demo is running out of time I wanted to use it in a project and see how useful it was, anyway I havent done any Warhammer 40k artwork for a bit so its gonna be a Chaos Spacemarine (as usual) I will be building the armour etc so those stretchy bits will be covered up, so far sculpted in mudbox from a basic head, render test in C4D, Quick texture test using Bodypaint (on a 240,000 poly (not tri's)) but it still needs some more texture work as a lot of detail has been lost in the "busy-ness" of the texture..more updtes coming soon.. _________________ Last edited by Psionic on Mon Feb 26, 2007 6:49 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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CeoN ...it's called a hangover... Joined: Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:42 pm Posts: 31 Location: Germany	Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 3:25 pm Post subject:
	man, hell this one is ugly , i played Dawn of War some time ago, i know they look this way G
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paling you've got to laugh, haven't you? Joined: Thu Aug 03, 2006 6:50 pm Posts: 379 Location: the Netherlands	Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 3:55 pm Post subject:
	really cool stuff so far! you can also try using a retopologise program, like topogun or something (i believe blender can do that too, but i don't understand anything about blender...) and in that way make a lowpoly model, on which you can apply a normal map. I hope you finish this guy before you run out of time!
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pepper Fish King of Pluto Joined: Fri May 20, 2005 9:39 am Posts: 1433 Location: The Netherlands	Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 5:01 pm Post subject:
	This looks amzing! Reminds me a bit of Zbrush. _________________ http://white-line.org/
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Psionic Not-so-Evil Overlord Joined: Thu May 19, 2005 3:04 pm Posts: 2870 Location: UK	Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 6:22 pm Post subject:
	The first pic is a screengrab from mudbox but after that its all Cinema 4D/Bodypaint, plus I've done some more work on it since... paling: Theres no need to retopologize, mudbox keeps the lower poly versions of your sculpt that you start from and outputs normal/displacement maps that you can apply those to the lowpoly version later...this is purely for an image so polycounts are not really an issue anyways _________________ Last edited by Psionic on Sat Apr 28, 2007 8:19 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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pepper Fish King of Pluto Joined: Fri May 20, 2005 9:39 am Posts: 1433 Location: The Netherlands	Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 10:57 am Post subject:
	Seems like a effective program. Here's a tutorial describing how to use the program, great result IMHO. http://www.tutorialized.com/tutorial/Ma ... over/20125 _________________ http://white-line.org/
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daghen Just relax and leave this to us. Joined: Sat Jul 16, 2005 10:20 am Posts: 283 Location: japan	Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 11:50 am Post subject:
	nice head psi .. glad you put your hand on mudbox finally ..and i'm sure you love already it simplicity for sculpting wait to see the next part
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Nathan R It wasn't me, it was the other 3 Joined: Thu Nov 23, 2006 9:38 pm Posts: 723 Location: Leeds - England	Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 12:05 pm Post subject:
	Nice one there! the final render looks so real! Looks like something from silent hill _________________
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Psionic Not-so-Evil Overlord Joined: Thu May 19, 2005 3:04 pm Posts: 2870 Location: UK	Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 1:27 pm Post subject:
	Little update, some more work on the torso/shoulder pads but just a basic colour on there so far, gotta get bodypainting but figured I better get all the sculpting done first _________________
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paling you've got to laugh, haven't you? Joined: Thu Aug 03, 2006 6:50 pm Posts: 379 Location: the Netherlands	Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 2:06 pm Post subject:
	haha cool stuff! it looks like the metal armour came to life
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Taymo I was just abandoned in this pub. Joined: Sun May 07, 2006 1:03 am Posts: 236	Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 5:14 pm Post subject:
	Pretty awesome as usual. You should animate the other marine and this one fighting to the death. That would be great. _________________ Who knew a wood-chuck could chuck that much wood?
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Psionic Not-so-Evil Overlord Joined: Thu May 19, 2005 3:04 pm Posts: 2870 Location: UK	Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 5:44 pm Post subject:
	I doubt I will be animating this guy its purely for a one off image (plus the old marine is lost to the hard-disks of time) _________________
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Taymo I was just abandoned in this pub. Joined: Sun May 07, 2006 1:03 am Posts: 236	Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 8:23 pm Post subject:
	It wasn't really a request, animating that would be pretty superfluous but cool none the less. _________________ Who knew a wood-chuck could chuck that much wood?
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Psionic Not-so-Evil Overlord Joined: Thu May 19, 2005 3:04 pm Posts: 2870 Location: UK	Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 6:42 pm Post subject:
	Added a few more bits n bobs, still lots more to do though... _________________
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Stea_Demon Just relax and leave this to us. Joined: Sun Feb 18, 2007 8:06 pm Posts: 294 Location: -Depths of Hell-	Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:33 pm Post subject:
	Wow! Impressive stuff there Psionic you got my vote and that Mud Box looks like an awesome program, im a fan of Z brush butt now i might look into this. Stea_Demon
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Elon Yariv What on Earth are we going to do? Joined: Sat Feb 24, 2007 5:27 pm Posts: 92 Location: -Top Secret-	Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:40 pm Post subject:
	Awsome, sick but nice. I like it although living eyes on armor aren't my kind of style. You must be some man to learn how to make this with a totally new program is so short a time.
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Psionic Not-so-Evil Overlord Joined: Thu May 19, 2005 3:04 pm Posts: 2870 Location: UK	Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 1:32 pm Post subject:
	Thanks for all the comments so far dudes Done some more in my dinner hour today, added back pack, skulls and basic arms...still gotta build some hands and a chainsword that he'll be holding!! _________________
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Stea_Demon Just relax and leave this to us. Joined: Sun Feb 18, 2007 8:06 pm Posts: 294 Location: -Depths of Hell-	Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 4:40 pm Post subject:
	wow,psionic thats really coming along nicely is starting look like it belongs in a Hellraiser movie Really good stuff Stea-Demon _________________ Maya is my drug of choice. I'm practically meshed up 24/7
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Dionysus Wouldn't that crush my bones? Joined: Fri Jan 12, 2007 1:39 pm Posts: 205 Location: Netherlands	Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 4:57 pm Post subject:
	great work psi I realy like the head _________________ Dionysus
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Psionic Not-so-Evil Overlord Joined: Thu May 19, 2005 3:04 pm Posts: 2870 Location: UK	Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:29 pm Post subject:
	Pretty much finished I think, maybe a few tweaks but its more or less done... _________________
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Stea_Demon Just relax and leave this to us. Joined: Sun Feb 18, 2007 8:06 pm Posts: 294 Location: -Depths of Hell-	Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:43 pm Post subject:
	Holy Moly!!! Thats fantastic Love the design Just one question. Did you texture it in Mud Box like you can in Z Brush or did you Texture it else where Stea_Demon _________________ Maya is my drug of choice. I'm practically meshed up 24/7
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Psionic Not-so-Evil Overlord Joined: Thu May 19, 2005 3:04 pm Posts: 2870 Location: UK	Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:46 pm Post subject:
	No mudbox is just a sculpter, I also used Zbrush for the last few parts and I still think I prefer ZBrush over mudbox...and mudbox's $650 pricetag doesnt really help its case I UV'd the head and painted it in bodypaint (in Cinema 4D) but the rest are just textures cubic mapped and applied to each part in Cinema 4D and I used 3 omni lights for lighting, one with hard shadows!! _________________
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Stea_Demon Just relax and leave this to us. Joined: Sun Feb 18, 2007 8:06 pm Posts: 294 Location: -Depths of Hell-	Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:52 pm Post subject:
	I see. I'm a fan of ZBrush but i might still try Mud Box (the trial version) just because i like to get my hands dirty Anyhow great Mod Stea-Demon _________________ Maya is my drug of choice. I'm practically meshed up 24/7
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pepper Fish King of Pluto Joined: Fri May 20, 2005 9:39 am Posts: 1433 Location: The Netherlands	Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 3:03 pm Post subject:
	The model is alright, though im not too fond of the lighting/textures. _________________ http://white-line.org/
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Anoxy Fresh Meat Joined: Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:08 am Posts: 5	Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 3:48 pm Post subject:
	Thats some nice detailed model! but i didnt like the lighting too. I must try one of those ultra poly modeling programs. Which one is better zbrush or mudbox?
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Psionic Not-so-Evil Overlord Joined: Thu May 19, 2005 3:04 pm Posts: 2870 Location: UK	Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 4:22 pm Post subject:
	mudbox and zbrush are different beasts really, the actual sculpting side of both is pretty much the same, push/pull,smooth/move etc but mudbox has a very short learning curve, whereas Zbrush takes a little getting used to but its a massive piece of software that can do millions of creative things I'll probably never figure out they are both good at what they do, best to try the demo's and see what you like... Yeah the lighting is a little old-school but it kinda works to me I may do some lighting/texture experiments though, Thanks guys!! _________________
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paling you've got to laugh, haven't you? Joined: Thu Aug 03, 2006 6:50 pm Posts: 379 Location: the Netherlands	Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 4:41 pm Post subject:
	i like it a lot, but i don't like the colors that much, he is pink right now, when i see marines i always see them being deep red or dark blue or something like that... it is original though (not cool, BUT original:D)
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Psionic Not-so-Evil Overlord Joined: Thu May 19, 2005 3:04 pm Posts: 2870 Location: UK	Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 6:48 pm Post subject:
	Another dabble, tweaked the textures a bit and also the lighting plus did a bit of post work in photoshop..smoke, details, etc _________________
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paling you've got to laugh, haven't you? Joined: Thu Aug 03, 2006 6:50 pm Posts: 379 Location: the Netherlands	Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 7:03 pm Post subject:
	looking much better! i like it, but maybe add different colours to different parts, his head could just be human like or grey/puple or whatever, but the armour could be in a different coulor, that way it doesn't seem so plantlike if you understand what i'm trying to say. Keep experimenting on the colors and textures!
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Psionic Not-so-Evil Overlord Joined: Thu May 19, 2005 3:04 pm Posts: 2870 Location: UK	Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 11:14 am Post subject:
	Thanks for the suggestions but these Chaos Marines of Khorne are generally red n gold or just red so I think I'll stick with the usual colour scheme or the 40k nuts..erm fans will string me up _________________
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40k Chaos Marine - mudbox/C4d etc test